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evening. law-enforcement going house-to-house in the greater boston area searching for the terror suspect that is armed and possibly wired with explosives. the fbi and law enforcement searching with the 19 year-old who has managed to elude capture since this fire fight late last night. the second suspect in the monday boston marathon bombing. his brother tamerlan tsarnaev is dead and the boston area was under a lockdown and tell one hour ago urged jews stayed behind locked doors and told they were given the all clear to leave their homes. the largest shutdown in the history of any metropolitan area. here is the timeline. 10:20 p.m. last night and armed robbery reeorted at a 711 near the m.i.t. campus shortly after police received reports of shots fired on the campus. police responded to the scene and discovered in may t. campus police officer john collier shot in his car and was transported where he was pronounced dead. then the brothers hijacked a car then released him unharmed and a gas station but then less than one hour later it after it adjacent to the boston suburb during that chase
that just passed here. this was a key area, an area where a lot of law enforcement was gathering. we saw a truck. there were armed personnel on it. we saw bomb sniffing dogs from the fbi. really, the impression was they were searching for an ied. something you would see in a theater of war, in a combat zone, not here in the streets of boston. you still have a lot of personnel. some have slowly been pulling back. again, it's a very active scene that's going on right now. we don't know the status. we don't know where this individual is, whether he's close. whether he's in custody. but by creating a huge perimeter around this particular area, what they do hope to do is either flush him out, or at least tighten the noose. and so that's what they're trying to do. they are going door-to-door. they are canvassing different homes, they are trying to do a sweep. remember, these people, even though they were on the run, they hijacked -- they basically harnlg acked an individual and then they fled and they were still throwing out bombs we're told either bombs or grenades or some sort of pipe bomb.
quickly walk away from it, what is not normal. that we only have so many law enforcement people. we have a guy in times where the waterway and there may be a normal explanation for it. i get on the metra system and by putting my earphones and a listen to my music or whatever when that is probably not a very smart thing, particularly for a guy like me to do. but it is just being aware -- you know, it is so easy. when i went to vietnam ever went said, stay alert, stay alive. i think people will be a little bit more alert right now, but just look for things that are out of place. is an author.t is ned zsa,ler republican. 'd think throrism comes at all different forms and different faces, not just literally, but metaphorically, too. you cannot say that it is not political or that it is. it is hard to label active terrorism -- acts of terrorism sometimes providing it is up to with identifying terrorism. we sometimes let our guard down and i feel like we do not know when the time is to act. when something should be under suspicion. we wait for something to happen. tough one. is a you are
locomotives. about half a billion dollars to be spent on these new locomotives. in that section of law, one sentence was added that said these must be 100% american made. no one was making locomotives in america before that. but siemens, the german corporation, one of the biggest manufacturers in the world said, oh, half a billion dollar well, can make locomotives in america, sure. in sacramento, california, they opened a manufacturing plant, probably somewhere between 200 and 300 people working there today manufacturing 100% american made locomotives and on may 134, three years after they began this process, the first 100% american made locomotive in probably more than a century rolled onto the tracks of america. we can do this. h.r. 549 will provide that opportunity, using american-taxpayer money. i have another bill that does the same for wind and solar projects. we can do these things and put our mind to it and get past this business of austerity. we cannot solve this problem of american jobs with an austerity budget. we see it failing here in europe and united states as the long-term u
with our government's top national security priority, which is the lawful effective and humane interrogation of this subject for the purposes of gathering intelligence. the boston attacks were clearly inspired by the violent ideology of transnationallist islamist terrorism. so we need to learn everything we can about what foreign terrorists or terrorist groups the suspect and his brother might have associated with, whether they were part of additional plots to attack our nation, and what other relevant information the suspect may possess that could prevent future attacks against the united states or our interests. i think we need to delve further into this whole issue of the education that some people who are motivated by these base ideologies obtain over the internet and the effect that it's having. we should at least know about that. our civilian justice system offers a responsible option for striking this balance with american citizens. it allows the justice department to delay reading a suspect his miranda rights if doing so is in the interest of -- quote -- "public safety.
to cell phones? >> i think they didn't they would have to escape. when law enforcement figured out different pieces of this puzzle, they panicked and didn't have an alternative plan -- they were so focused on what they were doing, nothing else became important and obviously, it would have been. >> another photo of the suspect coming in right now, it shows him when he was on the wrestling team. i believe, we're going to put that up in just a second. it just came in. they got it up in the control room. we're not positive, if indeed this gray honda is occupieoccup. it could suggest as well, aps someone else was involved. >> well, maybe, george, but the idea of a stealing a car or carjacking someone else, is an act of desperation. you have seen him acting in a desperate way since basically the 7-eleven. >> yeah that's true. brad, thanks very much. >>> jon karl at the white house right now. we know we're getting more details about the president's briefing in the situation room. >> george, as you can imagine this has consumed the president, entire intelligence and national security teams
does law enforcement approach this scenario? what do you think the next few hours will look like? >> i think it will be a deliberative and careful process. as you say, they are closing in on the suspect and that is tightening. one of the concerns is does this individual have explosives attached to his body, has he taken someone hostage. is that wired explosively and we've seen that in other plots as the net tightened that the individuals decided to use explosives. >> we have boston p.d. on this, there's fbi, there's atf and massachusetts guardsmen. who is in the lead here? >> the lead will be the joint terrorism task force which is led by the fbi. so in a sense, they're organizing all of the constituent agencies and giving direction. i wonder, someone mentioned the events in the last three hour, this all was an attempted robbery. an m.i.t. rob shot and killed, grenades thrown from a vehicle. report of the dead suspect having an ied on his person. characterize, scale from one to ten, level of danger as they get closer to this remaining suspect? >> i would say it's about a level eight. b
trying to escape law enforcement. here's how it played out. around 10:00 p.m. last night, the suspects robbed a store. they then proceeded to fatally shoot an m.i.t. security officer and hijack a mercedes suv. the owner of that vehicle was held hostage for half an hour while the two brothers pulled $800 out of an atm. they released the owner of the mercedes unharmed. police chased the suspects into watertown, where this shootout took place. the suspects exchanged fire with police and threw explosives towards them. at one point, tamerlan sarn ev got out of the car wearing an ied strapped to his chest and was shot by police. his body was run over by dzhokah tsarnaev as he fled the scene. at present the manhunt continues. the police are looking for a younger brother and a possible accomplice. let's bring in nbc justice correspondent, pete williams. this is a quickly developing situation. how many people are the police looking for right now? >> i think they're not sure. i think we can say probably three. dzhokah tsarnaev, the person who is the man with the white hat and the marathon bombin
only be tried in federal court. he's never eligible for military commissions. a first year law student could convict this person. what i'm worried about is what does he know about future attacks? he's telling us that his brother was the bad guy, he's sort of just along for the ride. they had no international connections. guess what, he's down-playing his involvement. what i am suggesting is that we use the national security legal system where we can interview him without a lawyer to gather intelligence to prevent a future attack, rather than having to negotiate through his lawyer to get any information. jenna: but, if i could, senator, there seems to be a lot of discrepancy about some of the information come being out about this investigation. >> right. jenna: we've all seen it, you know, played out on the news and otherwise. i would like to drill down a little bit into an even change you just had about the boston terror attacks with the s*epbg o secretary of home land security january elt napolitano. we showed an older brother, this tkhaou owe, that is secretary napolitano. we just sh
king, with night falling, night is actually to the advantage of law enforcement personnel. they have night vision goggles. they can control the night and if they want, they can light up the scene. >> they believe they have a tactical advantage this time as opposed to last night when they were surprised and the suspect escaped. they want to take their time, because of the risks to law enforcement and the risk to the neighborhood and because they are now amassing overwhelming presence to the point that they have essentially eye contact. they have visual contact with this believed to be the suspect and there are reports going in and among law enforcement on the scene as well as back to state officials, city officials, as far back as the justice department, the fbi in washington, trying to coordinate now the next move. yes, they believe they have a tactical advantage. they brought in extra units, military style vehicles in case there are explosives there. they have lighting and night vision equipment and the like if they decide to use that. and the question now is they believe time is th
. that got law enforcement zeroing on the two brothers. bill: mike, we're trying to piece this together as best we can but what can you tell us about the reports that the fbi is questioning him today from his hospital bed? >> reporter: all of that goes back to a "usa today" report citing anonymous sources. the sourcing is not as tight as i would like but certainly a significant development. we know he has been sedated. he has a injury to his neck or jaw, a bullet wound to his neck or jaw that prevented him from communicating. 9 report says he was roused back to consciousness and providing things in writing and providing substantive answers to questions. we know from the information he is providing that indicates there is not a larger network and not a second wave of bombings to be feared, bill. bill: mike, thank you. we'll be back with you when there are more headlines from boston. mike leading our coverage there martha. martha: we are hearing the police chatter when police first spotted dzhokhar tsarnaev hiding in that covered boat. massachusetts state police released the stunning infr
. it all goes back to "usa today" report citing anonymous law enforcement source but if the information hashings out it is certainly significant, the fact he is able to communicate with investigators by writing. he can't speak because as you mentioned there is a gunshot wound either to the neck or jaw or both but he is able to write according to this report and the answers providing to questions are described as substantive. what know from the information the answers he is providing indicates there is not a larger network. there is not a second wave planned or a wave people should be fearful of connected to him. again the information, the sourcing on the information just doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence, jenna. jenna: we'll take that interest consideration, mike as you've been on the ground there for the past several days. we see the flowers behind you and tell us where you are and when will the area around the blast site be reopened to the public? >> reporter: this is copley scare and you see another makeshift emmoral. so sadly these at that are common building up behind us. t
with this legislation. we are a safer country when law- enforcement knows who is here, has their fingerprints, photos, conduct background checks, and no wonder these to look at needles through haystacks. both the refugee program and asylum program have been significantly strengthened in the past five years, such that we are much more careful about screening people in determining who should or should not be coming into the country. if there are any changes that our homeland security experts tell us we need to be made -- s, security experts tell us need to be made -- a there were widespread erroneous reports of arrests being made. this emphasizes how important it is to let the facts come out before jumping to any conclusions. mostieve this is the balanced piece of immigration legislation that has been ever produced. the american people and all of our colleagues should read this bill over the next few weeks. they will have ample time to look at every page and every paragraph before we go to markup in the committee. what they will find is a bill the secures our borders, combats the overstay, cracks down
considered as a possible hideout? >> well, as you know, chris, they started with a 20-square-block area. law enforcement suggests they've been through about 80% of that. we are looking for a needle in a haystack. and look, we know his brother took a lot of hits in the gunfight with law enforcement last night before he was killed. you might suggest that this 19-year-old man we're looking for, he may have been hit, too. so he could have crawled under a building someplace. he could be barricaded inside of a house somewhere by himself, or holding a hostage, or he may, just may have been able to steal another car and our worst case scenario and get out of town. once law enforcement finishes this search of this 20 square block, then they have to regroup and figure out what cars have been stolen in the area that he might have used to get away from, or did we miss him and do we go back again? and, chris, i know we're going into the weekend, but how long do you keep a city like this bottled up and tell everybody to stay inside? >> well, is there any way of tracking besides basically hard target, i me
talked about the fact and law enforcement talked about the fact that they'd been through about 60% to 70% of the entire area. i'm assuming that in the hours since then, it's now, of course, 4:05 eastern time, but they made progress close to 100%. >> reporter: yeah, but what's the area? remember, the entire city is in lockdown now. they have told everybody in boston not to leave their homes, not to open their doors, except to law enforcement officers. so while they might be able to inspect the immediate area around here in watertown, it seems a herculean task to be able to do that for the entire metropolitan region that's essentially in lockdown right now. look, there's a massive police and military presence, actually, here, actually, it's right behind me, the staging area is right behind where i'm standing here at the parking lot of the watertown arsenal here. we've had early this morning convoys of military humvees, bus loads of police and state troopers coming in here and assembling for what we thought was going to be some sort of massive confrontation or assault here. we had blackhawk
police are also serving on the scene. there simply could not be a stronger concentration of law enforcement personnel anywhere in the the country right now as there is in the small blue collar town of watertown, massachusetts that find itself so in the middle of the focus this morning. you have to believe that folks felt that the worst of this had taken place on monday at that finish line, and those two bombings that left 160 people injured and three people dead, but last night it exploded in a whole new way, an explosion, a car chase with these two suspects after a quick stop at a 711, they carjacked another man, stole his mercedes. thankfully they spared his life. he was pushed out of his own car, he ran into the 711 and said they are trying to kill me. the people in the 711 thought that he was drunk until they finally realized that he was just in complete shock and was indeed revealing to them that he had literally just been in the car driving around for 30 minutes with these two suspects. what a harrowing experience that must have been for him. then tamerlan the older brothe
with what mike levine is hearing from his federal law enforcement sources suggesting that these individuals may have been trained overseas and that the fed are looking into that right now. a lot of questions, but certainly grave concern that these are possibly foreign-born terrorists. >>brian: just building on some of the things you threw out there. if these are -- the 5'7" middle eastern man, if people think there is more than one, dressed like a college kid in a college town, it almost looks like they picked up an outfit, an overemphasis of wanting to blend in until they no longer wanted to blend in. >> we've always seen this. one thing terrorists have learned over the years is that they do need to blend in. they're not going to show up -- even back as long ago as 9/11, those members were clean shaven, looking western when they got on the plane. this is not new. however, it is interesting. i was noting when you see that suspect in the white baseball cap, it is intentionally backwards. that is such an american thing to do. when he was walking, i thought he looked very american in the video
: they believe that they had paramilitary training and law enforcement officials are saying that the way that they did the operation on monday, how calm, cool and collected they were, the cold-blooded nature of it, the fact that, you knne of the suspects we're seeing near an 8-year-old boy that he clearly would have been able to see that would be in the line fire anddeo this is described as the most urgent situation that law enforcement officials can recall since the sniper attacks and also never been a situation where an entire city has been on lockdown since 9/11. >> you see the picture, you see the bomber and the backpack and see the little boy, the youngest victim of the boston marathon bombings right there. what you were saying, cooley walked away -- >> reporter: george, we're also picking up some scanner traffic where the suspect is posting online saying i will kill you all. you killed my brother. >> okay, that is more chilling information. i want to go to byron pitts outside the suspect's house in cambridge. we see the police waving everyone away there, byron. >> can you hear me t
was on lockdown. residents te residents terrified as law enforcement went door to door. this is one of the houses where police were combing through the neighborhood looking for the suspect. this is eddie beck's house. he took us through what it was like when s.w.a.t. teams came through here. >> they came in and searched the living room area, dining room, went through all of the bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen area. >> searched cabinets and things like that? >> they didn't go through cabinets or anything like that but went through bedrooms and closet doors and made their way through the back here. >> reporter: beck shared his footage of the s.w.a.t. teams combing through his house. during these moments, they didn't know where tsarnaev was or whether he was carrying explosives on his body. beck got a chill just knowing about it. >> knowing they had him surrounded and so close to our neighborhood it made us think that he might have been here at nighttime and they flushed him out into that area. >> reporter: vivian stevens lives by herself also very close to the house where tsarnaev was corn cornered. >
surveillance by law enforcement officers. as you mentioned he was intubated and sedated with serious injuries. as the investigation continues the focus today is on what charges he will face and when. one week after two deadly bombs exploded in downtown boston, killing three and injuring 183 people, the only surviving suspect remains in serious condition at beth israel deaconess medical center. as federal prosecutors prepare to bring charges against him, law enforcement sources say dzhokhar tsarnaev is unable to talk after a gunshot wound to the neck. exactly when he suffered this injury is still unknown. >> this is a very complex investigation, and it's hard to say exactly how he received that injury. there was certainly a shoot-out in watertown. there were explosives thrown. so that's being looked into right now. it's hard to say exactly how it occurred. >> reporter: we're learning more about the tense moments right before tsarnaev's arrest. this aerial video shows infrared images of him hiding out on a boat in the backyard of a home in watertown. according to a law enforcement source close
of military vehicles, buses of police and motorcycles and other armed law enforcement officers. all congregating in the staging area behind me across from the mall in a parking lot. it looked like they were preparing for some sort of confrontation if not an assault. there were a lot of sirens going on. that activity seems to have abat abated. they think they know where the suspect is. clearly there was a pretty good sense here watching this that they seemed to be preparing for what could be a very violent confrontation with the suspect or suspects. shortly about a couple of hours ago now, governor patrick came out and we were told that the entire city of boston was under lockdown. that seemed to escalate the concerns. we don't know right now as we have been told, they believe they have the suspect cornered in an area and the second suspect is on this amtrak train. then the threat, a largered in threat may have abated, but you have to keep in mind they found the ied in the city of boston that has to raise the question are there more out there they have to be concerned about? even if
with armored soldiers or law enforcement officials with assault rifles. we've seen the blackhawks. we've learned the blackhawks are part of the massachusetts natural guard. they're used for transport. we've seen them in the last 15 or 20 minutes passing over. this is very active, and if this guy has been up as i have when i first started to pursue him at 11:00 last night, he's tired. he may be getting cornered in the final 30%. this is very dangerous. on top of that, we know from the controlled explosives that has happened in the last few hours that there are explosives out there. i just want to remind people. while it may look calmer in the scenes we're seeing today, the scene that i rolled up on here behind some 30 or 40 law enforcement officers, everything, fbi, swat, atf, boston police department, everything right into the blocks behind me about three or four streets, and it was aster phying a gun 5 as i've ever seen in iraq or afghanistan. this is a very violent individual, just like his brother. he is feeling perhaps more cornered and tired. it is imperative that they listen, th
in boston as an scuse because our law toughens i think things up. >> the senate bill would have multiple background chengs and make sure anyone over-staying a visa would be detected. right now, there is no check on airport departures. as for those who came without visas, lindsay graham says this. >> now is the time to bring all the 11 million out of the shadows and find out who they are. most of them are here to work. but wree may find some terrorists in our midst who, have been hiding in the shadows, when it comes to the entry/exit. the 19 hijackers were all student who is overstayed their visas and the system didn't capture that. >> the senate holds the second two of hearings on immigration reform tomorrow. >> it will be very interesting. an emotional ballgame in beston last night, after a week of terror. >> shannon: a yesterday's home game was made more special by neil diamond, who made it there on the red-eye. members of law enforcement, first responders and marathon participants were also honored. david ortiz had a passionate rally cry. >> it doesn't say red sox, it says boston... w
exception under the miranda allowing law enforcement to interview him, making sure there are no other bombs, threats, perpetrators still out there giving the law enforcement flexibility to do the that prior to miranda and i think the court will interpret it broadly and give them the time they need to make sure that the public is safe. after that, he will have to be mirandized, doesn't mean the end of cooperation, but no basis yet to conclude they should be treated at enemy combatants. we're talking about an american citizen on american soil. there's no evidence that i've seen yet that they were a part of an al qaeda cell or directed by a foreign government. we're very far afield from a situation which is sort of the paradigm for enemy combatant status. that is, someone captured on the balg battlefield in a theater of war. resist these charges as an enemy combatant. the court has proven capable of supporting a terrorist constitution and i'm confident the justice department with all the evidence we've seen and a lot more we haven't can build a very strong case. >> congressman, at this point w
and run database checks and law enforcement intelligence indices, reach out to allies and let's say there wasn't much there, they he work with the fsb. >> used to be called the kgb. >> the rough equivalent of the fbi for russia. >> but we do admit one thing. we a game changer now. we to go after every bit of this information and track it down and be on top. the patriot law we got to start looking at people's computers, the internet. we got to start changing. >> geraldo: at least when you question a guy you put him on a list and when comes back from russia after is six months say hey, where have you been, man? we'll be right back. it doesn't matter where a good idea comes from, it only matters that it shows up and makes things better. in that spirit, verizon is proud to announce the powerful answers award. 10 million dollars in prizes for the beseas. s so big, they have the power to change everything. whether it's our inspiration, or yours, the world's biggest challenges deserve even bigger solutions. the powerful answers award from verizon. starts with ground beef, onions and pepper
it with a constitutional law attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general under president bush. he joins us now. i wasn't even aware this could be done in national security cases. tell us about how it works. >> sure. it's a rare exception. basically what it does is it allows law enforcement to delay issuing a suspect his miranda rights for a limited period to enable law enforcement to get information that would be relevant to public safety. for example, in this case one of the things we want to ask this guy is: is there another attack that might be imminent? who are you working with? are you part of a larger network? questions aimed at making sure public safety is protected, making sure we get any information that is time sensitive right now before he lawyers up and doesn't want to talk with us anymore. >>alisyn: we know that is vitally important because apparently the suspect planted other pipe bombs or explosives, at least, along the chase route. so they somehow knew that when they were trying to get away they had even, you know, planted other things to try to hurt and inflict more harm. so thi
step? let's ask the executive director of the american center for law and justice. good morning. i think a lot of folks are not familiar with this public safety exemption. why invoke that at this time? >> usually it's rare, it would be an instance where there is a gun or some kind of in this situation, unexploded bombs. it's important for people to understand, this is not the most extreme move. what you get from this is very limited interrogation and on top of that, it has to be directed questions. what does that mean? the questions can only go to minimizing and eliminating the immediate emergency. because that's why you've invoked this exception to the miranda warning which is required by supreme court precedent. but they did carve this out. >> the u.s. government is concerned about any potential new attacks so they want to limit their questions to asking about that, and they won't be able to ask those questions until he actually comes out of surgery and is aware of his surroundings. >> that's right. >> and mentally competent, right? >> the questions you would ask, right, you do h
law enforcement, of deep concern of ammunition, guns and working bombs these men had. they were so disciplined. >> any indication of another sleeper cell? >> right now, no evidence of a broader plot involving more people here, but law enforcement officials say they can't take that chance. the investigation is full tilt to find that out. >> okay, pierre, thanks very much. let's get more on this from our team of analysis from our team, dan abrams, brad garrett and richard clarke. dan, let me begin with you. the question about the questioning of the witness, at least at first he will not be read his miranda rights. >> that's right. you heard pierre talk about this public safety exception. basically the supreme court has recognized that, in some cases, if there's the possibility of an imminent threat that you can ask limited questions without further reading someone their miranda rights and that's what they're saying here, now, down the road, will someone challenge it and say this shouldn't have happened? sure. courts may have to resolve the specifics in this case later. but there is n
clear that there's any law that would allow him to be tried as an enemy combatant. this is a procedure we know works. people get tried in criminal courts every day. the combatant laws we don't know that one can be successfully conducted. that's lost in a mar ras in guantanamo bay. this case will take a long time, be expensive and complicated but he's going to trial and there's going to be a verdict. we know that. >> jeff, thank you very much. fran, julia, as well. appreciate it. follow me on twitte twitter @andersoncooper. what do you think? should he be charged in a criminal court opposed to an enemy combatant? >>> and we will dig in to the case. the older suspect spent last year in parts of dagestan and chechnya. and the older suspect's widow. what we know about her and their relationship and more importantly what the fbi wants to know from her tonight. >>> later, my interview was remarkable woman. i hope you stick around for this. she a dance instructor whose body was broken. she had to have part of her leg amputated below the knee but her spirit is certainly not broken. >> i woke u
surveillance. >> a federal law enforcement official agrees and says tamerlan was not on a terror watch list or any no-fly list because the u.s. never deemed him a threat. so there were no alarm bells when tsarnaev came back to the u.s. six months later. >> but the time he returned, all investigations, the matter had been closed. >> but even sew, it's not clear if the department of homeland security was charged with monitoring travel even know that ztsarnaezatsarnaev was on his r. >> we are trying to make sure that all of that information that was available was shared. if it wasn't, there may be somebody who dropped the ball. >> a u.s. official said even when there's a hit in the system it doesn't prompt anyone in law enforcement to take action. it's just monitoring for suspicious travel. joe johns, cnn, washington. zbr well, we're getting more breaking news now. a u.s. official telling cnn's jessica yellin about the ongoing investigation that there is no hard evidence of accomplices. there is no known evidence to extremists. they're still not certain what radicalized them. additionally inve
. but as the colonel said, because of that extraordinary collaboration and cooperation by all of these law enforcement resources and assets and more to the point people, professionals, who brought their "a" game, we have a suspect in custody tonight. >> the community stood strong. it was a call from a resident in watertown. we asked you to remain vigilant, and you did. we got that call and we got the guy. and so we can't thank you enough. you've done everything and more than we've asked. extremely proud of law enforcement today and what we've accomplished. >> this whole ordeal started monday with the bombing attack at the finish line of the boston marathon. three people were killed, more than 170 injured. the suspect's older brother died early friday morning following a shootout with police. the two men are also suspected of killing an m.i.t. police officer, 26-year-old sean collier, who was sitting in his patrol car. now, police hope that the surviving suspect will be able to give them some critical information about a possible motive and whether any more people were involved. nbc's katy tur has been
be communicating to law enforcement officials. and there are new questions about whether the fbi dropped the ball after being warned by the russians in 2011 about cz tsarnaev's older brother, tamer ly tamerlan. nick paton walsh is in dagestan, and we have joe johns in washington, but we began with pamela brown with the latest on the investigation. >>> after a week of terror, chaos and heartache, the city of boston is still recovering. there are signs that life is starting to return back to normal here. there is a sense of relief after the arrest of the suspect, 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev. now the focus is on what charges he will face and when. >> reporter: one week after two deadly bombings exploded in downtown boston killing three and injuring 183 people, the only surviving suspect remains in serious condition. as federal prosecutors prepare to bring charges against him, law enforcement sources say dzhokhar tsarnaev is unable to talk after a gunshot wound to the neck. exactly when he suffered this injury is still unknown. >> this is a complex investigation. and it's hard to say exactly how he
of actions violate u.s. laws and international treaty obligations. this conclusion is not based upon our own personal impressions, but rather, is grounded in a hoe row and detailed examination of what constitutes torture from a historical and legal context. we looked at court cases and determined that the treatment of detainees in many instances met the standards. the courts have determined constitute torture. in addition, you look at the united states state department, in its annual country reports on human rights practices, has characterized many of the techniques used against detainees in u.s. custody in the post-9/11 environment, the state department has characterized the same treatment as torture, abuse, or cruel treatment when those techniques were employed by foreign governments. the c.i.a. recognized this in an internal review and that many of the interrogation techniques it employed were inconsistent with policy, positions the united states has taken regarding human rights. the united states is understandably subject to criticism when it criticized another nation for engaging in tor
transportation, of schools, of businesses. no one is going in or out of this area except law enforcement. residents are sheltered in place. they are searching for this 19- year-old suspect that is still on the run. there is the latest picture we got of him this morning. that is 19-year-old dzhokhar tsamaev. he is considered armed and dangerous. he is one of two suspects believed to be behind the boston marathon bombings. these two suspects are brothers. let's take a look at the pictures that were released by authorities yesterday. the man on the left of your screen, you can see that we have put dead under his picture because this is the 26-year-old brother who was killed last night in a shootout with police. what we've learned about him this morning in the last hour or so that apparently when he was killed he had explosives on him and a trigger. that obviously raises the level of concern, because they believe if this 26-year-old brother is capable of that, obviously then this 19-year-old still on the run, very very dangerous at this time. considered in the neighborhood, possibly in that
metropolitan area. only law enforcement, of course, is able to take to the skies in that area. we have what can only be described as an extraordinary situation in a major american city this morning. i want to turn to don berelli, a form fer special agent with the fbi, part of the joint terrorism task force, and has expertise and a security consultant. so much to talk to you about but i think you can't fathom a more dangerous situation for the officers who are responding here. >> absolutely. that was my first thought. it does not get much worse than this. you have somebody who has both weapons and explosives, and it appears they may have this person contained. appears, we don't know that for sure. but the concern, obviously, is could he be in a barricade situation, which is an extremely dangerous position for tactical officers and worse than that, could he take hostages and that's where the danger goes through the roof. this is the concern immediately as far as tactically what is happening on the ground there. then you have the added angle of possible accomplices. what's happening around the cit
and every law enforcement authority tries to sort through the information here in boston today, martha. >> bill, details have been coming in fast an furious this morning. let's go over what we know right now. there is a massive manhunt currently underway for one. suspects, 19-year-old dzhokhar tsnaraev who is believed to be a terrorist. believed to be heavily armed and dangerous at this hour as police are in pursuit of this, of this known to be terrorist all public schools, including m.i.t., emerson and harvard, shut down this morning. they're telling everybody stay right where you are. all the transportation is shut down and residents in surrounding area are advised to stay in their homes as well. gretchen carlson has been covering this throughout the course of the morning and she is with us now. gretchen. >> good morning to you, martha. i'm looking at ap wire right now. they have been in touch with the father of the suspects in russia this morning. he described his 26-year-old son tamerlan who had been killed, somebody who is smart. his younger one who is on the run, dzhokar, a secon
the decision and, of course, i'm not second-guessing anybody. i did talk to a law enforcement officer over the weekend who, first of all, said, you know, it would have been much better for us all if this had been plotted out of a cave in afghanistan instead of, you know, an apartment in cambridge. >> one among us. >> yeah, one among us. but also he was saying not so sure about them shutting down the entire city and the message that that sends. you talk about copycats. the copycat said if i do something particularly heinous, i can hold an entire city hostage. >> one of the purposes of terrorists is to disrupt and forcing a city shut down and the rest, she used that end in addition to killing and injurying that you do. one of the reasons -- i don't want to second-guess the tactical decision to lock down boston. but i don't think this is something that if you will a scaleable or sustainable. >> no, we can't do this. >> imagine these guys hadn't been captured and all that. >> after what happened to the boston marathon in an internationally visible way. we were covering this all morning long. i
insinuated by a lot of law enforcement officials who note the ties to chep chen rebels them -- chep chen rebels them because it would be a crucial link and address any of those concerns. that begs the next question, here, eric are and i know you can't possibly be inside the mind of authorities on the sceee here that these explosions, if they're not coming directly from the police, it would lead one to believe that the younger brother, like the older brother not only armed to the teeth or boobpy trapped himself or near booby-trapped type devices if you get too close you will hear a lot of explosions. >> that could be possible. they said they found explosive devices and another unexploded pressure cooker today in cambridge where they searched his house where he lived. you have to remember he is in the car chase. he is on foot. he had the presence of mind, neil, right after the gunfight last night to go to the bank of america atm machine, get his card and he got cash. he got money according to sources in the middle of all this last night. you have to wonder if he has bombs on him or if he h
of retirement and health care benefits is consistent with what is required by the federal law of ups, federal express and every other almost every other corporation in the country it would be very similar. >> it could be different from what the private sector companies are doing. i would like to know, i would like to make that available to the postal employees that i represent throughout the country. >> you are correct but it's not the same for health care benefits. i will provide a more detailed record. >> you are saying the postal service now is operating at 140% of current revenue; is that the number you gave? >> drm laes, unfunded liabilities. >> bankruptcy would probably be where they are. >> finally let me go to something completely unrelated. you testified he wanted more flexibility in their rates in respect to packaging the monopoly on first-class they would have it facto monopoly on the third clause catalogs and what people would refer to as door hangers and nobody has the reach you do. how do you give that flexibility without giving you the power to do sweetheart deals and take the
at this and her family. reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as shock. as a mother and a sister, a daughter and wife, katie deeply mourns the pain and loss to innocent victims, students, law enforcement officers and our community. in the aftermath of this tragedy she her daughter and her family are trying to come to terms with this event. >> megyn: joining me now is judge andrew napolitano. so in the news business we get paid to be skeptical. we have a lawyer for the woman who is married to the dead bombing suspect saying she knew nothing about it. the other lawyer said she worked 70 to 80 hours a week as a home health care aide and never saw the husband who was taking care of their toddler daughter. that can easily put you outside the home while the bombs were being made and plans were coming together and ultimately the terrorist attack was coming out. that could all be true. how do we get to the bottom of it? >> the only way the government can get to the bottom of it, if they wanted to get to the bottom from her, she doesn't wanted to speak, is subpoena her before
or law enforcement believed the suspect could have fled. the investigation has continued to develop. we can't give you all of the reasons, all those developments right now. we will in the fullness of time. we can't right now. but, based on those developments, we feel it is prudent to be able to say to people "you can get back out as long as you are vigilant." >> did he he get away or do you know where he is? >> who is helping you? just the state police or additional municipalities? >> this has been an ongoing effort of the joint terrorism task force. it was from its onset and it will continue to be that. so you have the fbi, the state police, and all of the local police departments, clawgd the boston police department. [several talking at the same time] >> do you believe the suspect is still in the boston area or has he fled? >> i think i would be -- no, i don't have any direct knowledge that he is here in the boston area but we don't think he would get much further. his ties seem to be here. >> brian right here. >> how and when did you know that they were being islamic suspects? >> wel
. >> if people are coming from countries where, perhaps, they grew up under sharia law, i think we can make a safe assumption they have been radicalized. >> lindsey graham was on some show this week saying this shows how we need better tracking. i'm thinking this shows how we need better immigrants. >> how do we give asylum to people from islamic countries, or islamic territories? i would submit people shouldn't be coming here as tourists from check kn chechnya after 9/11. dagestan, chechnya, kyrgyzstan, uh-huh. as george bush would say, none of them stands. >> let me get this right, krystal. asylum is not based on those that may be in desire of leaving countries that we think their policies are no good. asylum is based on who you are. have you ever heard anything more biased and -- and in many ways profiling people just based on their nationality? i mean, it's the exact anti-thesis to what asylum is. >> it's the exact antithesis of everything this country stands for. judging people. not allowing them into this country because of their religion is unbelievable. i would love to know how many
of the establishment. look at aljer hiss. he was a supreme court court. his brother was a law partner. how could he be a communist spy? yet, he was. terrorists can learn that lesson. the best way to avoid scrutiny is to look like you fit in. >> we just had anna chatman, remember her, the sexy russian spy who is moscow and putin gave her an award. you raise a point about letting him back into the country, not just the first time but last year when he came back from russia. has there been an unfortunate pattern of that? egypt didn't want theli sheikh. he's convicted of being the leader of the cell that went to attack the world trade center in 1993 and plot the bombing of landmarks. he's a notorious convicted international terrorist. where is the gap? where are the holes? have we made mistakes? >> i think there are a lot of holes in our immigration system. look. i speak as someone who favors more legal immigration, but i can tell you. when i was at the justice department in the 1980s, fbi agents came and told me there were 10,000 iranian graduate students in the country and they weren't studying engli
or possibly change the laws. what's expected here on the boston marathon bombing investigation when i see you next. kyla campbell, ktvu channel 2 news. >> thank you. >>> the man accused of mailing a letter containing ricin to president obama is expected back in court. paul kevin curtis has denied any involvement sent to the president or other letters sent to a senator or judge. his attorneys say there's little evidence connecting him to the letters but curtis's family says he does suffer from mental illness. >>> we're hearing the frantic 911 calls made from a deadly explosion at a fert light ez -- fertilizer plant in west, texas. >> there's been an explosion at my house. all of the windows are completely in. >> at least 14 people were killed in last wednesday's explosion and 200 more were injured. ten of those killed were first responders. >> listen, to me. the station just totally exploded. i have a nursing home and an ammo station and i need as much help that you can sent. >> some were able to return home. howf, they have strict curfews and limited water -- however, they have strict curfews
for law enforcement and for politicians to paint this as black and white. we like to see things in terms of good and evil. evil-doers, out doing evil. and certainly the act itself is an act of evil. it's horrible what happened. but then you put that next to the description of dzhokhar by his friends and the one that emerges from his twitter feet. when you hear the president say we're confronting the face of evil and you hear his friends say, he's the nicest guy ever. he arrived, he would pick you up. >> and adopted kittens. twitter photos of kittens. that doesn't excuse anything, in terms of complicating the picture here. >> it does lend credibility to the idea that his older brother was the one that might have influenced this. it's the perfect age, what, 26 and 19, for the 19-year-old to look up to the 26-year-old. and i think it's revealing, too, that he kind sounds like he drove over his brother. >> yes, well, in the escape. >> i'd like to see, if that's true, it would be interesting to see if they charge him with that. you know -- >> involuntary manslaughter. >> that would be one of
involvement. >> the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. >> and in dagestan, the suspect's mother is adamant that her sons are innocent. >> what happened is a terrible thing, but i know that my kids have nothing to do with this. i know it. i am mother. >> joining us now from boston is nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. and frank silufo, director of the homeland security policy institute at george washington university. good afternoon, to both of you. mike, as the investigations continue both here and oversea, we understand that investigators are confident these brothers acted alone. even as their family members express utter bafflement. what are we learning about the larger case against these suspects? >> reporter: well first of all, this is looking, martin, more and more like a case of self-radicalization. now, nothing is conclusive and, you know, we're far from the end of this investigation right now. >> of course. of course. >> reporter: but the preliminary indicators, first, you have tsarnaev saying the
thank all of our law enforcement personnel for doing yeoman's work. and after the pictures were flashed, obviously they were in the area and things started heating up, really, really intensely and right now they seem to have focused on watertown about ten to 12 miles outside of boston and everybody seems to be doing their jobs on high, high alert and obviously the best thing that people can do is listen to the people that know better than we do. >> now the uncle of these two terrorists has been talking and he says both of them have been here for roughly ten years, arriving 2002, 2003. in other words, they've been here a long time. and they've been through america's educational system. what do you make of that, senator? >> well, you have to wonder whether they're actually being influenced by, for example, as you know, there's inspire magazine, an of-- and put that together and how to make a pressure cooker bomb. whether they're domestic or home grown, or having influence from chechnya. it's hard to say. i'm sure we're going to hear a lot more as things develop, but it is deeply disturbin
themselves from their now-deceased son-in-law, saying something to the effect he was a monster they never knew. how -- how are her parents dealing with this? >> they are taking it very hard. you know, the dad came out to get the trash last night, and pretty much said no comment. you can see it's taking a heavy toll on the family. you know, katherine glup the suburbs of providence. raised christian, went to college in boston, met tamerlan. she converted to islam, and by all accounts, fairly devout, wore the hajaab, the traditional head scarf. she didn't speak russian, so she wasn't always aware what was being said, she didn't understand the language being spoken around the house. wolf. >> chris lawrence reporting for us. just ahead, still many unanswered questions in the boston marathon terror attack. investigators work to interview the only suspect still alive. new insights into the investigation. stay with our special coverage. ♪ [ male announcer ] a car that can actually see like a human, using stereoscopic cameras. ♪ and even stop itself if it has to. ♪ the technology may be hard
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in connection with the attack. abc's dan harris is in boston. >> reporter: law enforcement sources tell abc news the young man seen on the surveillance tape, calmly walking through the crowd with a bomb in his bag, is now being cooperative with investigators. he has trouble speaking because of gunshot wounds to his neck, but he is communicating through writing, nodding his head and making short vocalizations. based on what he has told them, investigators are now convinced there are no more ongoing plots. and abc news has learned dzhokhar tsarnaev told investigators they learned to build a bomb on the internet. dzhokhar tsarnaev was officially charged with using and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction. the complaint contains vivid new details about the chaotic events of last thursday night when the brothers tsarnaev allegedly carjacked a man. the victim describes one of the brothers getting in the car and saying, did you hear about the boston explosion? i did that. the victim says the brother then removed a magazine from his gun, displayed a bullet and said, i am serious. the victim la
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